Student Nurses’ Association Meeting Minutes
October 10, 2011
Grand Valley State University
Grand Rapids, MI
I. Call to order at: The SNA meeting was called to order at 12:02 P by Julia Vanderhoef, President.
II. Roll call: Ashley Gaebel, Secretary, took the roll call.
III. Those present:
Board Members
President—Julia Vanderhoef, Vice President—Erin Nicoson, Secretary—Ashley Gaebel, Treasurer—Elizabeth Mikes, Communications Director—Bethany Nies, Community Wellness Director—Kaitlyn Winter, Curriculum Director—Joshua Fik, Evaluations Director— Laura Courtright, Image and BTN Director – Molly Steensma, Membership Director – Kristyn Wheaton, Staff Advisor—Angela Caruso
Delegates
315— Jasmine Gillette, Avana Johnson, Rebecca Mast, Brooke Shelton, Kristen Slatinsky, Jaime Steger, Aleigha VandenBerg.
320— Ally Duxter Lauren Glovak, Renee Dettloff, Katie New, Jessica Romano, Megen Tanner,
350—Eric DeJong, Natalie Ervin, Lauren Gilfillan, Dawn Hatchew, Stephanie Moore, Casie Pedley, Lauren Rosasco, Alyssa Tassiello, Meredith Visser.
420— Frank Durante, Bianca Orduna.
450—Laura Ambers, Nadine Mushimbele, Jennifer Senita, Brooke Telep.
Those absent:
Excused with notice: Erin Nicoson, Vice President; Elizabeth Mikes, Treasurer; Bethany Nies, Communication Director; Molly Steensma, BTN Director, Norine Cunningham, Faculty Advisor; Linda Lamberts, 315 Delegate; Nicole Husen, 420 Delegate; Erika Shilkey, 420 Delegate; Cheryl Riordan, 420 Delegate; Lauren Vockler, 420 Delegate; Taryn Zyburt, 420 Delegate;
Excused without notice: Lindsey Krueger. 315 Delegate; Jessica Trierweiler, 320 Delegate.
IV. Approval of previous meeting minutes:
Motion: Joshua Fik, Curriculum Director.
Second: Kristyn Wheaton, Membership Director.
V. Approval of flexible agenda:
Motion: Kristyn Wheaton, Membership Director.
Second: Kaitlyn Winter, Community Wellness Director.
VI. Officer reports
- 1. President
- a. Recruiter Panel today.
-Kathy Ball – Spectrum Health. Hire new grads every day. Postings are not specified for new grads. Every specialty hires new grads. (**there is a question that addresses which specialties require experience)
-Saint Mary’s – Only hire during specific times of year. Posting on website, nurse intern wait list. Do hire for all different departments. 12 week long intern. Starting pay is the same.
Questions:
-Spectrum: Are you able to start apply and working before taking NCLEX? Recommend applying a month before graduation and then start dates are not until after the NCLEX is taken and passed.
-Saint Mary’s: Describe the waitlist more: Apply online and the process is an intense interview process. Once you are in
-Any tips? Work now. People who are CNA’s and/or similar position tend to have better chance of getting a position. Go where you are known. Remember that every clinical rotation you do is an interview. They are watching you and if you do not have a good experience, the manager will inform the recruits.
-Can you start the conversation with the unit manager of interest? Yes! -Start talking with the manager. They will inform HR that they are impressed and to look for their resumes.
-Minors? Spanish is good, but they don’t make you stand out. Psych minors are decent. The managers will take a look at that.
-Details: Typos are the biggest turn off. Attention to details. If you cannot fix a detail on your cover letter, then will you correct them on the floor?
-Moving around: The entities use the same application system, so you may apply for one job and have multiple interviews.
-Hard Copies of resumes?: NO! It will get lost. Email instead of call.
-Does it look bad that we apply to many different positions? No, but find a passion area and apply for that position until you hear, “no.” You may have to consider another area until you can get to the passion area. Do not tell them you are looking for anything. A good med surg is a good starting spot.
-Should we expect night shift? Yes, there are not many day shifts open and they go to internal people first.
-Saints Versus Spectrum:
Saint Mary’s is smaller and faith based. The environment is different from Spectrum. The pay is more, but it balances out in the end. Do your homework.
Spectrum: Bigger and has a few different specialties that are not offered other places. Go where you feel right.
-If your Dream job is on a different floor and it is not possible to get that job right now, so you get a job close to that specialty. What are the chances to get that position later? At Spectrum you can transfer in 6 months, but most managers will request a 2 year commitment. It is best to get two years of experience before going to where you really want to be because you need the experience of the nursing world.
-How highly do you look at grades versus experience: It matters, but it is not more important than experience. Both are looked at and considered. Poor gpa’s may be a deal breaker.
-Union: organizations are not unionized. Muskegon is.
-Length of orientation: 12 weeks for both.
-Loan reimbursement? No. There is tuition reimbursement, but no loan repayment,
-Are some floors easier to get into than others? Med surg is always easier because there are more positions available.
-Can you go from Tech to RN if you are internal in Spectrum already? Yes, you can see additional positions that everyone else can’t.
-Are there things that you see frequently that you do not like? -Recruiters like bubbly and happy. Don’t chew gum. Don’t come with tissues on your face from shaving. Don’t talk too much (going on and on), just answer the question.
-How close does Saint Mary’s work with Pine Rest? Hire a lot of psych med nurse for PMU. Saint Mary’s and Holland are the only hospitals in the area with PMU.
-Is Mary Free bed a different HR than Saints? Yes.
**-Are there any specialties that will not hire new grads. Spectrum can only think of Radiology. Some will only take a few new grads like critical care.
-Some postings have experience listed can we still apply? If it does not say required, you can still apply.
-How long does it take for a response when applying: It depends on the timing of when you apply. If you are the first person to apply you may hear sooner. If you apply too soon before graduating it will take time to hear back.
-Resources Nursing: Requires 2 years’ experience.
-Letters of Rec: They are not required and they do not ask for them until you actually come in for a meeting. Spectrum, you give names for reference.
-Magnet: Spectrum is, but Saints is not.
-Double Majors: Not a lot of emphasis. Look at BSN and interview you as a person. Angela wants you to pull this information into a cover letter and it will benefit you if you present it well.
-Do you call all references on reference sheet? Yes. Spectrum asks for 5!
-Are BSN nurses always chosen before AD? Yes.
-Are you limiting over-time? No.
Thank you to the nursing panel for coming in to answer questions!
- b. NSNA Mid-Year attendees have been finalized. They will bring back information for general membership.
- c. Dr. Van Doren is planning on coming to the October 24th, 2011 general meeting to discuss the new curriculum with the general membership. Curious to see what we think about it.
- d. The Board Buddy Meeting will be October 31, 20011 in CHS 440 at 11 a.m. Please attend if you plan on running for a board position.
- e. U of M Career Fair, conflicting information. October 14th, U of M Nursing School hosting a career fair. Must register and must dress professional business. Michigan Health Care is doing a career fair not associated with nursing school which will be March next year.
2. Vice President
3. Secretary
a. Delegates, please email the president and I before Monday morning if you are going to miss the meeting. Otherwise it will be considered unexcused due to the fact that we will be unable to check our email until after the general meeting.
b. The open board positions for next semester are president, treasurer, community wellness director, curriculum director, and membership director. If current delegates are planning on running for these positions, please email the current director to meet up and learn what the position entails. This will make the transition into the new role smoother.
c. Treasurer Updates were announced by Ashley.
-The Bylaws Committee will be presenting the possible changes for the Bylaws next general meeting which is October 24th. Delegates please plan on attending because at the general meeting after that we will be voting on the bylaw changes and your vote counts.
d. BTN Director Updates were announced by Ashley.
-The November 1st High School event is coming along really well! Those of you who have contacted Molly with interest in participating will be receiving an email from her (if they haven’t already) with their confirmed spot as well as the duty that she has assigned you for that day. In addition, a woman named Mary will be contacting all of you directly regarding an official “orientation” day in which there will be an informal walk-through of the day of the event (kind of like a “dry-run”) coming up in the next few weeks. Keep your eyes peeled for emails to follow shortly and email Molly with any additional questions prior to that.
- Those of you who contacted Molly re: the Girls Scout Event, the volunteers have been chosen and what an incredible turnout it should be from the KCON end! I unfortunately had to turn a few people away on my list due to high demand, but plan to put them on an “alternate” list just in case someone drops out due to personal circumstances that have been OK’d by Molly. Keep your eyes peeled for an email from Molly re: assigned duties for the day to be coming soon!
- Finally, will the members of the BTN committee please email Molly and let her know whether you can participate in the HS event day and/or the GS event day ASAP? She doesn’t have everyone on her committee accounted for and would appreciate an update ASAP. Again, she is just looking for an email with a “yay” or “nay” as to which day (hopefully both) you can participate in to get your committee hours completed and get your LIC points.
e. The blood drive coordinator, Taryn Zyburt, reports last blood drive was a success. We had 54 people register to donate, 37 pints of blood donates, and 24 first time donors! Great Job!
4. Treasurer
-Announced by Secretary
5. Communications Director
6. Community Wellness Director
-New LIC form will be sent out via email soon and it will be on the website soon.
7. Curriculum Director
8. Evalutation
a.Otherway is looking for Spanish translators for parent teacher conferences. LIC approved.
b. Mentor opportunity, but it does require a time commitment of 6 months. Also LIC approved. Please do not sign up if you are not going to be able to do 6 months to a year.
c. Volunteer opportunity at LaGrave Church. Blood pressure and foot care on Wed., Oct. 19th, noon to 3 p.m.
9. Image and BTN Director
-Announced by Secretary.
10. Membership Director
-October 12th there will be a mock interview and resume workshop. Spread out when you come so you will not be waiting forever.
11. Announcements
Blood Drive Coordinator announcements announced by Secretary.
12. Meeting Adjourned at: 12:53 p.m.
Minutes taken by Ashley Gaebel, Secretary
Approved:
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Julia Vanderhoef, President Ashley Gaebel, Secretary